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::Well how faraway would you say we are from decrypting 3DS ROMs? I'd REALLY like to see inside of Mario Kart 7, I know it uses Yaz0, so it can be de-coded. 1: How might we find the decryption key? And 2: How much more longer do you think it will be until we can extract a 3DS ROM's file system? It would be really helpful. -- [[User:SuperMario64DS|SuperMario64DS]], 16:34, 20 December 2011 (CET)
 
::Well how faraway would you say we are from decrypting 3DS ROMs? I'd REALLY like to see inside of Mario Kart 7, I know it uses Yaz0, so it can be de-coded. 1: How might we find the decryption key? And 2: How much more longer do you think it will be until we can extract a 3DS ROM's file system? It would be really helpful. -- [[User:SuperMario64DS|SuperMario64DS]], 16:34, 20 December 2011 (CET)
 
:::We are VERY far. (but then again it could happen any day). Nintendo was smart enough to use AES-CTR which is a very strong encryption which can't be cracked even if you have encrypted and decrypted data (and even the initialization vector) you basicly need the key and it's far inside the 3ds (maybe even coded in hardware and not just inside the 3ds flash). So unless we were told what the key is I don't see us getting anywhere. For now, we do what we can. --[[User:Elisherer|Elisherer]] 18:29, 20 December 2011 (CET)
 
:::We are VERY far. (but then again it could happen any day). Nintendo was smart enough to use AES-CTR which is a very strong encryption which can't be cracked even if you have encrypted and decrypted data (and even the initialization vector) you basicly need the key and it's far inside the 3ds (maybe even coded in hardware and not just inside the 3ds flash). So unless we were told what the key is I don't see us getting anywhere. For now, we do what we can. --[[User:Elisherer|Elisherer]] 18:29, 20 December 2011 (CET)
   
::::So, we just need that key? How might we look into the 3DS's Film Ware? Or couldn't you just observe the "Lock" (The 3DS ROM) And find the shape of the "Key"? (Encryption Key). Then if we took the "Lock" apart, we could re-build a replica of the "Key" and un-lock the File System. -- [[User:SuperMario64DS|SuperMario64DS]], 19:59, 20 December 2011 (CET)
 
::::So, we just need that key? How might we look into the 3DS's Film Ware? Or couldn't you just observe the "Lock" (The 3DS ROM) And find the shape of the "Key"? (Encryption Key). Then if we took the "Lock" apart, we could re-build a replica of the "Key" and un-lock the File System. -- [[User:SuperMario64DS|SuperMario64DS]], 19:59, 20 December 2011 (CET)
 
:::::We know the "shape" of the key, it's 16 bytes long, combined with an IV you can decypher anything. Please read the rest of the pages on 3dbrew before posting more questions. And you might want to look at [http://gbatemp.net/f201-3ds-hacking-homebrew GBAtemp.net] for more information. --[[User:Elisherer|Elisherer]] 22:01, 20 December 2011 (CET)
 
:::::We know the "shape" of the key, it's 16 bytes long, combined with an IV you can decypher anything. Please read the rest of the pages on 3dbrew before posting more questions. And you might want to look at [http://gbatemp.net/f201-3ds-hacking-homebrew GBAtemp.net] for more information. --[[User:Elisherer|Elisherer]] 22:01, 20 December 2011 (CET)
   
::::::You completely missed my point there (A good point too), but since you want me to stop asking questions I will stop. --[[User:SuperMario64DS|SuperMario64DS]], 05:40, 21 December 2011 (CET)
 
::::::You completely missed my point there (A good point too), but since you want me to stop asking questions I will stop. --[[User:SuperMario64DS|SuperMario64DS]], 05:40, 21 December 2011 (CET)
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:::::::Please don't stop asking questions. Asking questions leads us to finding things... just ask them in the right place, like GBAtemp or the irc channel. The title of this discussion is "Extracting data files" and clearly it can't happen for now so this talk is useless. --[[User:Elisherer|Elisherer]] 09:30, 21 December 2011 (CET)
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